
In his latest Pinkcast, Dan Pink asks: why are successful people so lonely?
To help find the answer, Dan engages the help of Arthur Brooks, Harvard professor and author of From Strength to Strength.
Brooks claims that the problem is that while successful people may have many friends β they may not be the right kind.
Brooks distinguishes between “real friends” and “deal friends”.
Deal friends are the people who really can help you in a transactional way and they probably do care about you and you probably do like them.
But real friends are the ones who might call you at two in the morning with a crisis. A real friend is someone with whom you might share intimate details of your romantic life, without feeling weird or worried that the details might be divulged.
So if you do have lots of friends, but you still feel lonely, here is Brooks’s suggestion.
Make a list of the five people you are closest to, not including family or your spouse..
Then ask yourself, are these people real friends or deal friends?
If the list is dominated by deal people, then you need to do the work to have real friends.
And what do real friends have in common? Brooks claims real friends are useless to you. They bring you joy solely on the basis of the friendship itself.
if your friends are too useful, you’ve got a deal friend problem. Having deal friends might be good for you and your career.
But to stop feeling lonely, Brooks notes that it’s time to start making some useless, but real friends.
Or as Dan sums it up at the end: go out and find yourself some useless people.
And that’s where I come in.
On paper, I should be everyone’s best friend, because I am completely useless.
So all you successful people, feel free to reach out.
And if you do, maybe there’s something you can do for me…
*image from Shorty Awards
Hmm…not sure I would call my real friends “useless”. They may not help me get rich or climb the ladder of success, etc, but they help keep the men in white jackets from taking me to the nice rubber rooms with pretty flowers on the wall!
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sounds like you are using your friends to keep you away from the men in the white jackets. they sound like deal people π
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“Haha!’ Smartie!
Nope, they are real for I can call them at 2am if I need too! π
Of course then there are the friends who make me sometimes wonder if I already am in a rubber room! The stooges may fit in that category. π
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I guess it’s good to have a wide variety of friends, including stooges…
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It keeps life from getting boring, that is for sure. π
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yes it does…
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Can we reverse the question and ask ourselves if we are someone else’s real friends or deal friends? I think we may want to find that out first and then take that next step.
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that is a good question!
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Some people just collect friends or people they want to call friends. I guess it makes them feel better. Or perhaps they are very successful at networking. I prefer quality over quantity. I think thatβs where real friends become important.
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Anyone who calls me at 2am with a crisis ain’t no real friend to me. That’s being worse than useless.
But I like the point Ariely makes, distinguishing deal friends from real friends. I’m not sure I’m with him all the way on this, but I do find it interesting food for thought.
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Ok I won’t call you at 2am, I will make it 1:45am. π
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Okay. But be aware that my phone is in Silent Mode at that time.
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eastern time?
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Hmm, good point. Maybe it’s best to never make friends with someone outside your time zone.
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that would cut back on dealing with people who can’t calculate time differences…
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It’s always 2am … somewhere? π
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and 5:00…
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how thoughtful…
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I try!
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π
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Though he didn’t seem too appreciative. LOL!
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he just doesn’t show his emotions on the outside
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π
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They may not be a friend to you, but it seems as if you are friends to them if they are calling at 2 am.
and it is an interesting idea…
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That’s true. I suppose it could be taken as a compliment.
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although I would also prefer my compliments at a more appropriate time…
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Then again, maybe it’s best to take them whenever we can get them.
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that’s a good point; maybe I should stop blocking spam calls…
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Whoops, I meant Dan Pink. See how useless I am?
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I get the two guys mixed up quite often!
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We’re both useless. Or maybe hopeless.
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or both…
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Do you want to know what I think?
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Do you want to know why we didn’t ask you what you think?
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Smartass! π
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π
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I think I do know… π
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Friends come in all shapes and sizes. I don’t think we need to put labels on any of them. I share my most personal stuff with some friends and others I simply enjoy hanging out with.
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that’s a good point, Pete. a friend is a friend…
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I’m a fan of friends who are just friends, it happens over time
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they are the best kind…
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This is why I keep my work and my private life completely separate. It is a lot easier to recognize who is who.
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work friends and private friends…
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More like work colleagues and private friends…
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got it; same with me…
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I disagree, my real friends are not useless to me at all!
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useless may not be the best word to use…
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I’d say I’m useless, too, but I feel like I am a bit too full of myself and consider myself helpful. Not necessarily financially, or socially, or professionally… but you can count on me and stuff. That’s gotta count for something, right?
It seems like most friendships are the deal type these days and I think that if you don’t have friends from back in elementary school, you might never have real friends again.
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I think your real friends would consider you anything but useless.
and now I’m worried – I don’t have any friends from elementary school…
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Maybe we can form a friend-less club…
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but it reminds me of a Groucho Marx line: βI don’t want to belong to any club that would accept me as one of its members” π
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I find this odd but mostly only somewhat accurate. What about acquaintances? A close friend? Frenemies?
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there are lots of ways to classify friends; using the terms real and deal may be just as much marketing ploy as anything else…
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I love your humor in this!
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thanks, Jennie!
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You’re welcome!
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Love this Jim. Wise, but with your usual funny wee twist. I have friends I’ve known for 40-odd years. Useless. As you say, that’s the whole point. Cheers!
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sounds like some great friends! π
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