The New York Times Opinion editors have created a website that will help you find places in the United States that best suit what you are looking for in terms of potentially multiple criteria.
Here is the link: Where Should You Live?
The choices are grouped into four categories:
- Lifestyle (17 choices)
- Climate (6 choices)
- Politics (3 choices)
- Demographics (9 choices)
You select any of the items that are important to you, and if it is really important, you can click it twice to give it more weight.
I chose the following:
- schools (double click)
- health care (double click)
- warm winters (double click)
- racial diversity
In a strange coincidence, the top two cities based on my choices are North Sarasota and Sarasota in Florida. That is where my wife and I have talked about retiring to for a couple of years now.
I thought a few key attributes were missing, including walkability, waterfront, community library (I chose schools as a proxy for this), cultural opportunities (museums, plays), and public transit. As far as I can tell, with the exception of public transit, I think Sarasota would still rank quite high if those factors were included and I selected them.
I think the results offer a good reason to take a trip to Sarasota, preferably while it is still chilly here in the Philly suburbs.
Among the top 10 cities listed for me, 7 are in Florida, 2 are in Hawaii, and 1 is in California. I guess by double-clicking on warm winters, it quickly narrowed the possibilities.
The New York Times website does provide an explanation as to how the survey works and includes statewide scores for all of the criteria. While that may be of some help, I think it would be nicer if they provided city scores.
Overall, the survey confirmed what cities match the criteria that are important to us.
But I’m going to play around with it a bit more to see what choices I would have to make so that Philadelphia works out to be the number one destination for where I should live.
I know I won’t be selecting mountains, warm winters, or low crime…
This is a cool tool! We played with similar tools in Canada to choose our retirement destination, but ended up finding the desired Sarnia location by chance. You never know what surprises await for you in this life!
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there’s always serendipity!
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Oh that’s easy. Pick the option that has “over expensive colleges”, “limited public transport outside of the city”, “think their city is a grid, but it’s not even close”, and finally “the city that is the slightly less awesome neighbor to New Jersey” or “has 95 bridges to NJ and still likes to talk trash” (usually these kind of things will only let you pick one of the two). BAM! Philly will be right up there. But if you want to pretty much guarantee Philly makes your list, select “SPRINGSTEEN!! (But not actually where he’s from)” and “Bon Jovi was from near there too”., “Pat’s Steaks”, “Rocky”, “Tom Hanks tear-jerker movie named after it”, “Philly Pretzels” and “walking distance to a Wawa”. That’s guaranteed. It’ll appear in the top five for sure. If you want it higher, see if there’s an option for “at least 20% of the population can spell Schuylkill at least 80% correctly despite autocorrect”. I think that will narrow it down to at least the top three 😂
There’s probably a ton more that I could put in, but you get the idea and I also don’t remember – it’s been over a decade since I crossed over to the dark side willingly.
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if those options were there, it would certainly make it easy; it’s more of a challenge when they are not 🙂
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Lol I know. I was just kidding. Those surveys have nothing useful like that so that you can make sure you’re living in the best city by selecting every single option that lets that be the result. They ask strange questions like your preferred climate, altitude, mail service and population. Who knows? Mostly, you end up choosing the opposite of where you are which is why you took the quiz to start with. You were stuck in traffic for over an hour so you now want a population of two, your freezing so you want to move to the tropics, you like getting mail but would literally pay the post office to lose all of your bills which is all you ever get anymore, and altitude doesn’t matter so much as long as you don’t get nosebleeds or drown. Basically, you can’t narrow it down to say that where you are is best, but it’s pretty easy to punch in answers that make where you are the least favorable place you could imagine. It’s the nature of the beast
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I would think there are a few people who are quite happy with where they are living. If Philly were about 20 degrees warmer in the winter, I’d be very happy here…
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Oh I’m happy with where I am too. Mostly. When traffic is bad, not so much. When it’s too hot, not so much. But overall, I am born and bred and happy here too. But my state never comes up as one of the ones I should live in. Then again, the shrek may be rigged against us lol
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not sure what you mean by the phrase the shrek may be rigged against us…
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That’s because that wasn’t the word I typed, that was the word the phone decided to put in, and it makes absolutely no sense. To the point I’m not even sure what I was trying to say. But maybe system or test? I don’t know. Sorry! I have been having a huge problem with my phone – it has now started changing words not as I’m typing but after I stop. When I send the text message or the comment, half the words get changed as it sends. I don’t know why. I’m getting ready to delete all of the autocorrect options that it has “learned” in the last zillion years.
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it’s got a mind of its own!
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Yes it does. Why I prefer the computer most of the time… it listens. Mostly.
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mostly being the key word…
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“Mostly” is still better than “kinda-sometimes, ok not really” lol
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Because we selected Gettysburg specifically for proximity to park land and a small town vibe, I’m guessing it would come up on my list if they included small towns. One day, I’ll need to create a NYT account so I can access stuff like this.
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how nice that you are living osmewhere that you consciously chose. and I am lucky to get a NYT account through my school…
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Very cool! We decided to end up in Florida and couldn’t be happier.
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that’s what I like to hear!
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I say “pffft” to this stupid tool. What about proximity to family? That can be a plus or minus. Or how about the sentimental value of living in your hometown or home state? Or you might have some outstanding warrants in some states. There may be many things to consider than what a tool like this has to offer.
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You are right there is always more things to cover, though I am not too concerned about any outstanding warrants. But being close to family is important!
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For me it depends upon which family member we’re talking about.
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Understand and I am sure that plays a role with a lot of families. I am glad to not be real close to my in-laws. We get along well but….after a week FIL starts driving me crazy. Brad agrees that their relationship is better by being apart.
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Heh-heh, yep, there are some relatives whose personalities are so rich, we can only take a little bit at a time.
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A little bit goes a long way! 🙂
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or so boring…
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Yes. I was just trying to be euphamistic.
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that was so thoughtful of you…
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and do your in-laws read your blog comments?
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you just have to work harder to get an outstanding warrant…
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for some people distance from family could be a benefit; and you can’t bring emotions into this. deciding where to live should be based on cold, hard facts… 🙂
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If you base it on cold facts, then I can understand why you’d want to move to Florida.
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🙂
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Oh to be at the age where you can once again pick up and leave 😊
They should do a similar tool for RV road trips… All the places to visit based on what you want to see/do! 🎉
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that would be a fun tool to have…
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I got Anchorage. I guess because I put in cool summers
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Have you ever been to Alaska? We sent my parents there for their 50th anniversary and they loved it! Said it was one of the most beautiful states they had visited and they been to almost all of them.
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I was lucky to be there in the summer, and it is a beautiful place to visit, but I couldn’t live there…
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I guess that means I would never get Anchorage…
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My alternative was Buffalo
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both places might work as long as you don’t get too much exposure and the focal length of the winter isn’t year round…
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I kind of want to live somewhere with lots of access to hiking and parks and all. Austin is ok but it isn’t the most scenic part of Texas
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I get the sense from you posts that you would like such places…
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Great tool! I know we’re staying put for now. My wife has a health condition that doesn’t allow her to live in any place hot. It’s mild here year-round (generally between 30 and 80 degrees F), and we have the ocean and redwoods. There are a few drawbacks, but the plusses far outweigh the minuses. As an accountant, that should go over big with you.
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sounds like you and your wife have found the ideal place to live. My wife and I are just getting tired of the cold winters. Whether we move somewhere permanently of just for part of the year is still to be decided…
and yes, I like when the benefits outweigh the costs…
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Hmm….I imagine if I put close to the ocean that would narrow it down a lot!
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yes it would, which is a good thing…
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I’d like to see a tool like this that also reviews foreign destinations. To get Philly as the No. 1 maybe you should double click on Wawa, Dunkin Doughnuts, cheesesteaks, and Eagles fans. 😊
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it would be nice for places outside the U.S. as well.
and yes, I would hope those criteria would lead to Philly as the number one choice…
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I can’t get to it unless I join for The New York Times. I love Quizzes, though.
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that’s too bad; I wasn’t sure if it required a subscription…
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I live under a rock and in a timewarp according to my teenage son. 🙂
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well as long as it’s working out for you… 🙂
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It seems to be so far. Now where is my tinfoil? I need to make a hat. 🙂
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👍
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My grandmother spent her last years living in Sarasota. Right across the way from her ex-husband with whom she was great friends.
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how nice to remain great friends with an ex…
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Considering climate change and sea level rise, you may want to pick something a little more inland!
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that’s a good point, maybe at some point Philly will have mild winters… if so, problem solved…
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i’d like to be somewhere with seasons that are not too dramatic, but still exist. i love all the seasons, but don’t like being freezing cold or boiling hot. i love living near woods and water and in a town that is open and has options for things to be a part of. most of all, i love living near my family, even on their most challenging days.
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my guess is that except for the cold winters, you’ve found your ideal spot…
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yes, and for that i have lots of stuff made of down )
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you’ve learned to adapt…
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like a polar bear
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🙂
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I’m guessing you didn’t click on the ‘politics’ options if your results were skewed towards Florida…
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exactly… 🙂
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guess i’m where i’m meant to be and i can visit all the rest
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can’t ask for more than that…
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I don’t have a New York Times subscription, so I guess I’ll never know where I belong.
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it is a tool just for Easta Coast liberals…
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Ahh. That makes sense.
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fascinating
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Looks like I’ll be heading to Florida, maybe we’ll be neighbors. What time is Happy Hour?
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first Barabdaos, and now Florida. my kind of weather!
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Thank you for helping me solidify my retirement plans, looks like I’ll be living in Florida & have a vacation home in Barbados. Since you were so helpful with this task, may I suggest your next blog topic: “How To Win The Lottery”
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I’ll write that post once I win the lottery!
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Great timing on this post, at least for me when reading it today. I am probably closer to a decision point on this subject than you are but, since I also couldn’t access the NYT site, I went to another one. It gave me a range of results which I will review later as well as some of the other similar sites to perhaps see if the results of more than one might provide a consensus of results.
While searching for sites I noted there was more than one that advised Sarasota so there may be some bias towards that location.
I also noticed while going through the comments that several mentioned proximity to family. My closest living family members are my kids who by happenstance both currently reside in Kalamazoo, MI. They think it would be a good idea for me to retire there. After my recent visit I might agree with them except for the fact that I am a So Cal weather wimp and absolutely could not or at least would not want to if given the choice live there in the winter. So I now hope to be able to become a snowbird!
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your situation seems to call for the snowbird lifestyle! good luck with your decision!
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It looks like you are trying to escape Philly’s winters. Good luck!
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yes; perhaps at some point…
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